Discussion:
Why many American drivers Just signal and turn without thinking of Time and Space?
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Screen Ranger
2008-04-18 20:09:39 UTC
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Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
women doing this shitty thing. I congratulate you truck drivers, you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the freeway.
The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
get in or not. This is a good example of why America going down in
many areas.

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Dave
2008-04-18 08:31:52 UTC
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On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700
Post by Screen Ranger
Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
women doing this shitty thing. I congratulate you truck drivers, you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the freeway.
Ummmm, we move over because we have no choice. If some dumbfuck in a minivan cuts us off, that will be a dead dumbfuck. Not that we care, but it will also ruin our career, even though it wasn't our fault. So we move over to PREVENT getting cut off, whenever we can.
Post by Screen Ranger
The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
get in or not.
Why should they? People merging onto the highway are supposed to find a gap to merge into, or YIELD to traffic already on the highway. There is no third option such as "FORCE PEOPLE TO MOVE OVER OR STOP TO LET YOU IN". People already on the highway have NO obligation to you at all. Get that straight, as YOU are the traffic hazard.
Post by Screen Ranger
This is a good example of why America going down in
many areas.
Yes it is. Way too many people think that they have the right to enter the highway RIGHT DAMN NOW, whether there is traffic already on it or not. That is a huge problem. -Dave
John Agosta
2008-04-18 20:47:24 UTC
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Post by Dave
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700
Post by Screen Ranger
Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
women doing this shitty thing. I congratulate you truck drivers, you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the freeway.
Ummmm, we move over because we have no choice. If some dumbfuck in a
minivan cuts us off, that will be a dead dumbfuck. Not that we care, but
it will also ruin our career, even though it wasn't our fault. So we move
over to PREVENT getting cut off, whenever we can.
Post by Screen Ranger
The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
get in or not.
Why should they? People merging onto the highway are supposed to find a
gap to merge into, or YIELD to traffic already on the highway. There is
no third option such as "FORCE PEOPLE TO MOVE OVER OR STOP TO LET YOU IN".
People already on the highway have NO obligation to you at all. Get that
straight, as YOU are the traffic hazard.
Post by Screen Ranger
This is a good example of why America going down in
many areas.
Yes it is. Way too many people think that they have the right to enter
the highway RIGHT DAMN NOW, whether there is traffic already on it or not.
That is a huge problem. -Dave
I ride a motorcycle, long distances, regularly.
Over the last 5-6 years, I have noticed the highways becoming more and more
cluttered with
clueless drivers. Just 1/2 hour ago, I arrived in Atlanta after a long drive
from Chicago.
The biggest problem I see ? THE DAMN CELL PHONE.

Everyone thinks that he/she can handle a vehicle while on the phone,
and it's the other guys that are the problem.
BS !
Don't flatter yourself - if you are on the phone, then you are a problem.
Personally, I'd like to see cell phone use outlawed while operating a moving
vehicle. Period.
Dave
2008-04-18 21:10:51 UTC
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Post by John Agosta
Post by Dave
Yes it is. Way too many people think that they have the right to enter
the highway RIGHT DAMN NOW, whether there is traffic already on it or
not. That is a huge problem. -Dave
I ride a motorcycle, long distances, regularly.
Over the last 5-6 years, I have noticed the highways becoming more and
more cluttered with
clueless drivers. Just 1/2 hour ago, I arrived in Atlanta after a long
drive from Chicago.
The biggest problem I see ? THE DAMN CELL PHONE.
Everyone thinks that he/she can handle a vehicle while on the phone,
and it's the other guys that are the problem.
BS !
Don't flatter yourself - if you are on the phone, then you are a problem.
Personally, I'd like to see cell phone use outlawed while operating a
moving vehicle. Period.
Yeah, I reluctantly agree with you. There are a few people who can talk on
the phone and drive at the same time. But the vast majority, something like
98% or better are TRULY dangerous while talking on the phone and driving.
And IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THEY USE A HANDS-FREE KIT OR
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The percentage of people who CAN talk on the phone and drive SAFELY is so
small that the 'greater good' would be served if cell phone use while
driving was outlawed, PERIOD. I'd go a step further and say that it should
not be legal to talk on a cell phone within 50 feet of any vehicle, even if
the vehicle is parked. My reasoning is, I see a lot of really STUPID,
dangerous maneuvers caused by drivers trying to dive to the shoulder (or
some other pull-off point) suddenly because their cell phone is ringing. So
outlawing cell phone use while driving probably isn't enough. If you know
that you can't even use the phone IN the car, there is no point pulling over
to try to answer it now, is there? It's called voicemail people. If it's
that important, they will leave a message.

And I do talk on a cell phone while driving. But I often ignore the cell
phone when it is ringing, if I'm driving. The only time I'll answer a cell
phone while driving is if I'm already wearing the hands-free kit, and I'm in
a low traffic density area in good weather conditions with no turns coming
up soon. Like I-80 in the middle of Nebraska in June, for example.
:) -Dave
richard
2008-04-18 23:34:09 UTC
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Post by Dave
Post by John Agosta
Post by Dave
Yes it is. Way too many people think that they have the right to enter
the highway RIGHT DAMN NOW, whether there is traffic already on it or
not. That is a huge problem. -Dave
I ride a motorcycle, long distances, regularly.
Over the last 5-6 years, I have noticed the highways becoming more and
more cluttered with
clueless drivers. Just 1/2 hour ago, I arrived in Atlanta after a long
drive from Chicago.
The biggest problem I see ? THE DAMN CELL PHONE.
Everyone thinks that he/she can handle a vehicle while on the phone,
and it's the other guys that are the problem.
BS !
Don't flatter yourself - if you are on the phone, then you are a problem.
Personally, I'd like to see cell phone use outlawed while operating a
moving vehicle. Period.
Yeah, I reluctantly agree with you. There are a few people who can talk on
the phone and drive at the same time. But the vast majority, something like
98% or better are TRULY dangerous while talking on the phone and driving.
And IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THEY USE A HANDS-FREE KIT OR
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The percentage of people who CAN talk on the phone and drive SAFELY is so
small that the 'greater good' would be served if cell phone use while
driving was outlawed, PERIOD. I'd go a step further and say that it should
not be legal to talk on a cell phone within 50 feet of any vehicle, even if
the vehicle is parked. My reasoning is, I see a lot of really STUPID,
dangerous maneuvers caused by drivers trying to dive to the shoulder (or
some other pull-off point) suddenly because their cell phone is ringing. So
outlawing cell phone use while driving probably isn't enough. If you know
that you can't even use the phone IN the car, there is no point pulling over
to try to answer it now, is there? It's called voicemail people. If it's
that important, they will leave a message.
And I do talk on a cell phone while driving. But I often ignore the cell
phone when it is ringing, if I'm driving. The only time I'll answer a cell
phone while driving is if I'm already wearing the hands-free kit, and I'm in
a low traffic density area in good weather conditions with no turns coming
up soon. Like I-80 in the middle of Nebraska in June, for example.
:) -Dave
Brainstorm!
Invent a gadget that would nuke a cell phone when the engine is
running.
Or simpler, install a "faraday cage" in the vehicle.
No signal, no talk.
realitytrucker
2008-04-19 04:14:02 UTC
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Post by richard
Brainstorm!
Invent a gadget that would nuke a cell phone when the engine is
running.
Got one. Called an air horn. Doesn't actually "nuke" 'em but when
you come up on some clueless clown talking away on their cell while
their speed on the freeway has dropped to abt 30 pull abreast of them
and give 'em a long blast. You'll get their attention and they
usually let you know your a number one driver! :)
realitytrucker
2008-04-19 04:28:39 UTC
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Post by richard
Brainstorm!
Invent a gadget that would nuke a cell phone when the engine is
running.
Got one.  Called an air horn.  Doesn't actually "nuke" 'em but when
you come up on some clueless clown talking away on their cell while
their speed on the freeway has dropped to abt 30 pull abreast of them
and give 'em a long blast.   You'll get their attention  and they
usually let you know your a number one driver! :)
Works better on the lower mounted horns rather than the roof
mounted.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
2008-04-19 18:28:44 UTC
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Post by richard
Brainstorm!
Invent a gadget that would nuke a cell phone when the engine is
running.
Got one. Called an air horn.

That's funny.

Doesn't actually "nuke" 'em but when
you come up on some clueless clown talking away on their cell while
their speed on the freeway has dropped to abt 30 pull abreast of them
and give 'em a long blast. You'll get their attention and they
usually let you know your a number one driver! :)
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Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2008-04-19 04:20:11 UTC
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Post by richard
Post by Dave
Post by John Agosta
Post by Dave
Yes it is. Way too many people think that they have the right to enter
the highway RIGHT DAMN NOW, whether there is traffic already on it or
not. That is a huge problem. -Dave
I ride a motorcycle, long distances, regularly.
Over the last 5-6 years, I have noticed the highways becoming more and
more cluttered with
clueless drivers. Just 1/2 hour ago, I arrived in Atlanta after a long
drive from Chicago.
The biggest problem I see ? THE DAMN CELL PHONE.
Everyone thinks that he/she can handle a vehicle while on the phone,
and it's the other guys that are the problem.
BS !
Don't flatter yourself - if you are on the phone, then you are a problem.
Personally, I'd like to see cell phone use outlawed while operating a
moving vehicle. Period.
Yeah, I reluctantly agree with you. There are a few people who can talk on
the phone and drive at the same time. But the vast majority, something like
98% or better are TRULY dangerous while talking on the phone and driving.
And IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THEY USE A HANDS-FREE KIT OR
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The percentage of people who CAN talk on the phone and drive SAFELY is so
small that the 'greater good' would be served if cell phone use while
driving was outlawed, PERIOD. I'd go a step further and say that it should
not be legal to talk on a cell phone within 50 feet of any vehicle, even if
the vehicle is parked. My reasoning is, I see a lot of really STUPID,
dangerous maneuvers caused by drivers trying to dive to the shoulder (or
some other pull-off point) suddenly because their cell phone is ringing.
So
outlawing cell phone use while driving probably isn't enough. If you know
that you can't even use the phone IN the car, there is no point pulling over
to try to answer it now, is there? It's called voicemail people. If it's
that important, they will leave a message.
And I do talk on a cell phone while driving. But I often ignore the cell
phone when it is ringing, if I'm driving. The only time I'll answer a cell
phone while driving is if I'm already wearing the hands-free kit, and I'm in
a low traffic density area in good weather conditions with no turns coming
up soon. Like I-80 in the middle of Nebraska in June, for example.
:) -Dave
Brainstorm!
Invent a gadget that would nuke a cell phone when the engine is
running.
Or simpler, install a "faraday cage" in the vehicle.
No signal, no talk.
Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about, Bullis?
Colonel Jake
2008-04-19 06:58:36 UTC
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Orson Wells as CitizenCain <***@here.invalid>
<542f6$480972a7$a6666813$***@ALLTEL.NET>
:
: richard <***@ca.re> a.k.a. Foam Duck
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: >Dave <***@nohow.not>
: >>
: >>>Dave <***@nohow.not>
: >>>>
: >>>>Yes it is. Way too many people think that they have
: >>>>the right to enter the highway RIGHT DAMN NOW, whether
: >>>>there is traffic already on it or not. That is a huge
: >>>>problem. -Dave
: >>>>
: >>>
: >>>I ride a motorcycle, long distances, regularly.
: >>>Over the last 5-6 years, I have noticed the highways
: >>>becoming more and more cluttered with clueless drivers.
: >>>Just 1/2 hour ago, I arrived in Atlanta after a long
: >>>drive from Chicago.
: >>>
: >>>The biggest problem I see ? THE DAMN CELL PHONE.
: >>>
: >>>Everyone thinks that he/she can handle a vehicle while
: >>>on the phone, and it's the other guys that are the
: >>>problem. BS ! Don't flatter yourself - if you are on
: >>>the phone, then you are a problem. Personally, I'd like
: >>>to see cell phone use outlawed while operating a moving
: >>>vehicle.
: >>>
: >>>Period.
: >>>
: >>
: >>Yeah, I reluctantly agree with you. There are a few
: >>people who can talk on the phone and drive at the same
: >>time. But the vast majority, something like 98% or
: >>better are TRULY dangerous while talking on the phone
: >>and driving.
: >>
: >>And IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THEY USE A HANDS-FREE KIT
: >>OR NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
: >>
: >>The percentage of people who CAN talk on the phone and
: >>drive SAFELY is so small that the 'greater good' would
: >>be served if cell phone use while driving was outlawed,
: >>PERIOD. I'd go a step further and say that it should not
: >>be legal to talk on a cell phone within 50 feet of any
: >>vehicle, even if the vehicle is parked. My reasoning is,
: >>I see a lot of really STUPID, dangerous maneuvers caused
: >>by drivers trying to dive to the shoulder (or some other
: >>pull-off point) suddenly because their cell phone is
: >>ringing. So outlawing cell phone use while driving
: >>probably isn't enough. If you know that you can't even
: >>use the phone IN the car, there is no point pulling over
: >>to try to answer it now, is there? It's called
: >>voicemail people. If it's that important, they will
: >>leave a message.
: >>
: >>And I do talk on a cell phone while driving. But I often
: >>ignore the cell phone when it is ringing, if I'm
: >>driving. The only time I'll answer a cell phone while
: >>driving is if I'm already wearing the hands-free kit,
: >>and I'm in a low traffic density area in good weather
: >>conditions with no turns coming up soon. Like I-80 in
: >>the middle of Nebraska in June, for example.
: >>
: >>:) -Dave
: >>
: >
: >
: >Brainstorm!
: >Invent a gadget that would nuke a cell phone when the
: >engine is running. Or simpler, install a "faraday cage"
: >in the vehicle. No signal, no talk.
: >
:
:Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about, Bullis?
:

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frequencies can enter or exit the vehicle,
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Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
2008-04-19 18:32:36 UTC
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Post by Orson Wells as CitizenCain
Post by richard
Brainstorm!
Invent a gadget that would nuke a cell phone when the engine is
running.
Or simpler, install a "faraday cage" in the vehicle.
No signal, no talk.
Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about, Bullis?
There's a first time for everything.

This just isn't it.
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different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies,
fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper


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richard
2008-04-18 21:44:24 UTC
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On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:47:24 -0500, "John Agosta"
Post by John Agosta
Post by Dave
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700
Post by Screen Ranger
Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
women doing this shitty thing. I congratulate you truck drivers, you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the freeway.
Ummmm, we move over because we have no choice. If some dumbfuck in a
minivan cuts us off, that will be a dead dumbfuck. Not that we care, but
it will also ruin our career, even though it wasn't our fault. So we move
over to PREVENT getting cut off, whenever we can.
Post by Screen Ranger
The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
get in or not.
Why should they? People merging onto the highway are supposed to find a
gap to merge into, or YIELD to traffic already on the highway. There is
no third option such as "FORCE PEOPLE TO MOVE OVER OR STOP TO LET YOU IN".
People already on the highway have NO obligation to you at all. Get that
straight, as YOU are the traffic hazard.
Post by Screen Ranger
This is a good example of why America going down in
many areas.
Yes it is. Way too many people think that they have the right to enter
the highway RIGHT DAMN NOW, whether there is traffic already on it or not.
That is a huge problem. -Dave
I ride a motorcycle, long distances, regularly.
Over the last 5-6 years, I have noticed the highways becoming more and more
cluttered with
clueless drivers. Just 1/2 hour ago, I arrived in Atlanta after a long drive
from Chicago.
The biggest problem I see ? THE DAMN CELL PHONE.
Everyone thinks that he/she can handle a vehicle while on the phone,
and it's the other guys that are the problem.
BS !
Don't flatter yourself - if you are on the phone, then you are a problem.
Personally, I'd like to see cell phone use outlawed while operating a moving
vehicle. Period.
Ain't that the truth? I saw one gal driving her truck totally clueless
about what she was doing other than yacking on the phone. It didn't
matter we were coming up on a construction site, well marked, and
didn't even bother looking in her mirrors when she was forced to
change lanes.

You can always spot the yackers because their speed is 10 mph less
than yours. They just don't give a damn.
Screen Ranger
2008-04-19 00:03:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by richard
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:47:24 -0500, "John Agosta"
Post by John Agosta
Post by Dave
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700
Post by Screen Ranger
Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them,
especially
women doing this shitty thing. I congratulate you truck
drivers, you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the freeway.
Ummmm, we move over because we have no choice. If some dumbfuck in a
minivan cuts us off, that will be a dead dumbfuck. Not that we care, but
it will also ruin our career, even though it wasn't our fault.
So we move
over to PREVENT getting cut off, whenever we can.
Post by Screen Ranger
The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
get in or not.
Why should they? People merging onto the highway are supposed to find a
gap to merge into, or YIELD to traffic already on the highway.
There is
no third option such as "FORCE PEOPLE TO MOVE OVER OR STOP TO LET YOU IN".
People already on the highway have NO obligation to you at all.
Get that
straight, as YOU are the traffic hazard.
Post by Screen Ranger
This is a good example of why America going down in
many areas.
Yes it is. Way too many people think that they have the right to enter
the highway RIGHT DAMN NOW, whether there is traffic already on it or not.
That is a huge problem. -Dave
I ride a motorcycle, long distances, regularly.
Over the last 5-6 years, I have noticed the highways becoming more and more
cluttered with
clueless drivers. Just 1/2 hour ago, I arrived in Atlanta after a long drive
from Chicago.
The biggest problem I see ? THE DAMN CELL PHONE.
I don't use a cell phone while driving and yes this is another
irritating/bad driving manner. People just talk and ignore what they
should be paying attention to.
Dave
2008-04-19 00:58:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by richard
You can always spot the yackers because their speed is 10 mph less
than yours. They just don't give a damn.
More like 10MPH less than posted, or about 30MPH less than "yours".
:) -Dave
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2008-04-19 04:21:43 UTC
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Post by richard
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:47:24 -0500, "John Agosta"
Post by John Agosta
Post by Dave
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700
Post by Screen Ranger
Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
women doing this shitty thing. I congratulate you truck drivers, you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the freeway.
Ummmm, we move over because we have no choice. If some dumbfuck in a
minivan cuts us off, that will be a dead dumbfuck. Not that we care, but
it will also ruin our career, even though it wasn't our fault. So we move
over to PREVENT getting cut off, whenever we can.
Post by Screen Ranger
The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
get in or not.
Why should they? People merging onto the highway are supposed to find a
gap to merge into, or YIELD to traffic already on the highway. There is
no third option such as "FORCE PEOPLE TO MOVE OVER OR STOP TO LET YOU IN".
People already on the highway have NO obligation to you at all. Get that
straight, as YOU are the traffic hazard.
Post by Screen Ranger
This is a good example of why America going down in
many areas.
Yes it is. Way too many people think that they have the right to enter
the highway RIGHT DAMN NOW, whether there is traffic already on it or not.
That is a huge problem. -Dave
I ride a motorcycle, long distances, regularly.
Over the last 5-6 years, I have noticed the highways becoming more and more
cluttered with
clueless drivers. Just 1/2 hour ago, I arrived in Atlanta after a long drive
from Chicago.
The biggest problem I see ? THE DAMN CELL PHONE.
Everyone thinks that he/she can handle a vehicle while on the phone,
and it's the other guys that are the problem.
BS !
Don't flatter yourself - if you are on the phone, then you are a problem.
Personally, I'd like to see cell phone use outlawed while operating a moving
vehicle. Period.
Ain't that the truth? I saw one gal driving her truck totally clueless
birds of a feather
Post by richard
about what she was doing other than yacking on the phone. It didn't
matter we were coming up on a construction site, well marked, and
didn't even bother looking in her mirrors when she was forced to
change lanes.
Then upon seeing that and being aware of the situation you should have
yielded to her, Bullis. Otherwise you could have been the cause of yet
another accident.
Post by richard
You can always spot the yackers because their speed is 10 mph less
than yours. They just don't give a damn.
But I bet they can spell 'yak' correctly.
realitytrucker
2008-04-19 04:26:25 UTC
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On Apr 18, 11:21 pm, "Orson Wells as CitizenCain"
Post by Orson Wells as CitizenCain
Post by richard
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:47:24 -0500, "John Agosta"
Post by John Agosta
Post by Dave
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700
Post by Screen Ranger
Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
women doing this shitty thing.  I congratulate you truck drivers, you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the freeway.
Ummmm, we move over because we have no choice.  If some dumbfuck in a
minivan cuts us off, that will be a dead dumbfuck.  Not that we care,
but
it will also ruin our career, even though it wasn't our fault.  So we
move
over to PREVENT getting cut off, whenever we can.
Post by Screen Ranger
The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
get in or not.
Why should they?  People merging onto the highway are supposed to find a
gap to merge into, or YIELD to traffic already on the highway.  There is
no third option such as "FORCE PEOPLE TO MOVE OVER OR STOP TO LET YOU IN".
People already on the highway have NO obligation to you at all.  Get
that
straight, as YOU are the traffic hazard.
Post by Screen Ranger
This is a good example of why America going down in
many areas.
Yes it is.  Way too many people think that they have the right to enter
the highway RIGHT DAMN NOW, whether there is traffic already on it or not.
That is a huge problem.  -Dave
I ride a motorcycle, long distances, regularly.
Over the last 5-6 years, I have noticed the highways becoming more and more
cluttered with
clueless drivers. Just 1/2 hour ago, I arrived in Atlanta after a long drive
from Chicago.
The biggest problem I see ?    THE DAMN CELL PHONE.
Everyone thinks that he/she can handle a vehicle while on the phone,
and it's the other guys that are the problem.
BS !
Don't flatter yourself - if you are on the phone, then you are a problem.
Personally, I'd like to see cell phone use outlawed while operating a moving
vehicle. Period.
Ain't that the truth? I saw one gal driving her truck totally clueless
birds of a feather
Post by richard
about what she was doing other than yacking on the phone. It didn't
matter we were coming up on a construction site, well marked, and
didn't even bother looking in her mirrors when she was forced to
change lanes.
Then upon seeing that and being aware of the situation you should have
yielded to her, Bullis. Otherwise you could have been the cause of yet
another accident.
Post by richard
You can always spot the yackers because their speed is 10 mph less
than yours. They just don't give a damn.
But I bet they can spell 'yak' correctly.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not to defend Bullis or anything but you might want to check this out:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/yak


Either way is acceptable
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
2008-04-18 21:55:06 UTC
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Post by Dave
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700
Post by Screen Ranger
Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
women doing this shitty thing. I congratulate you truck drivers, you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the freeway.
Ummmm, we move over because we have no choice.
Not me.

I put 'em right in the guard rail.

And honk and wave.

I rarely if ever move over, especially if they're moving too slow, talking
to the passenger, or god forbid, on the phone.

It's their responsibility to adjust to -my- speed and place.

If I see an honest effort on their part for responsible driving, I'll do
all I can to get out of the way.
Post by Dave
If some dumbfuck in a minivan cuts us off, that will be a dead dumbfuck.
Not that we care, but it will also ruin our career,
Not hardly.
Post by Dave
even though it wasn't our fault. So we >move over to PREVENT getting cut
off, whenever we can.
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Screen Ranger
2008-04-18 23:44:20 UTC
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Post by Dave
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700
Post by Screen Ranger
Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
women doing this shitty thing. I congratulate you truck drivers, you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the
freeway.
Ummmm, we move over because we have no choice. If some dumbfuck in
a minivan cuts us off, that will be a dead dumbfuck. Not that we
care, but it will also ruin our career, even though it wasn't our
fault. So we move over to PREVENT getting cut off, whenever we
can.
Post by Screen Ranger
The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
get in or not.
Why should they? People merging onto the highway are supposed to
find a gap to merge
Oh Shit, there is no gap when 3-4 days blocking the entrance.
Further more you are so wrong on this rule, I was taught by my state
to move away from the entrance so people can get in. Cheese, you
need to review your driver's license booklet.....Heeeeheee...... Or
take some Anti-Alzheimer's pills, it will do you good Dave.
Screen Ranger
2008-04-18 23:45:43 UTC
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Post by Dave
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700
Post by Screen Ranger
Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
women doing this shitty thing. I congratulate you truck drivers, you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the
freeway.
Ummmm, we move over because we have no choice. If some dumbfuck in
a minivan cuts us off, that will be a dead dumbfuck. Not that we
care, but it will also ruin our career, even though it wasn't our
fault. So we move over to PREVENT getting cut off, whenever we
can.
Post by Screen Ranger
The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
get in or not.
Why should they? People merging onto the highway are supposed to
find a gap to merge
Opps, sorry to repost:


Oh Shit, there is no gap when 3-4 drivers blocking the entrance.
Further more you are so wrong on this rule, I was taught by my state
to move away from the entrance so people can get in. Cheese, you
need to review your driver's license booklet.....Heeeeheee...... Or
take some Anti-Alzheimer's pills, it will do you good Dave.
Dave
2008-04-19 01:04:01 UTC
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Post by Screen Ranger
Post by Dave
Why should they? People merging onto the highway are supposed to
find a gap to merge
Oh Shit, there is no gap when 3-4 days blocking the entrance.
In that case, you are required by law to YIELD to traffic already on the
highway. There is no time limit on the yield requirement. If you sit there
for 3-4 days waiting for an opening to safely merge, that is WHAT THE LAW
REQUIRES!!!!
Post by Screen Ranger
Further more you are so wrong on this rule, I was taught by my state
to move away from the entrance so people can get in.
So was I. Unlike you, I am not confusing a suggestion with a law, however.
If you are courteous, you MAY move over, if you want to, and if it is safe
for you to do so. There is no law requiring it.
Post by Screen Ranger
Cheese, you
need to review your driver's license booklet.....Heeeeheee...... Or
take some Anti-Alzheimer's pills, it will do you good Dave.
My memory is fine. I know the difference between a suggestion and a
aw. -Dave
"Screen Ranger"
2008-04-19 09:54:49 UTC
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Post by Dave
Post by Screen Ranger
Why should they? �People merging onto the highway are supposed to
find a gap to merge
Oh Shit, there is no gap when 3-4 days blocking the entrance.
In that case, you are required by law to YIELD to traffic already on the
highway. �There is no time limit on the yield requirement. �If you sit there
for 3-4 days waiting for an opening to safely merge, that is WHAT THE LAW
REQUIRES!!!!
Post by Screen Ranger
Further more you are so wrong on this rule, I was taught by my state
to move away from the entrance so people can get in.
So was I. �Unlike you, I am not confusing a suggestion with a law, however.
If you are courteous, you MAY move over, if you want to, and if it is safe
for you to do so. �There is no law requiring it.
Post by Screen Ranger
�Cheese, you
need to review your driver's license booklet.....Heeeeheee...... Or
take some Anti-Alzheimer's pills, it will do you good Dave.
My memory is fine. �I know the difference between a suggestion and a
aw. �-Dave
You're right, Dave..........I guess I was off.base............
Screen Ranger
2008-04-19 15:17:25 UTC
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Post by Dave
Post by Screen Ranger
Why should they? ?People merging onto the highway are supposed
to
find a gap to merge
Oh Shit, there is no gap when 3-4 days blocking the entrance.
In that case, you are required by law to YIELD to traffic already on the
highway. ?There is no time limit on the yield requirement. ?If you
sit there
for 3-4 days waiting for an opening to safely merge, that is WHAT THE LAW
REQUIRES!!!!
Post by Screen Ranger
Further more you are so wrong on this rule, I was taught by my state
to move away from the entrance so people can get in.
So was I. ?Unlike you, I am not confusing a suggestion with a law,
however.
If you are courteous, you MAY move over, if you want to, and if it is safe
for you to do so. ?There is no law requiring it.
Post by Screen Ranger
?Cheese, you
need to review your driver's license booklet.....Heeeeheee...... Or
take some Anti-Alzheimer's pills, it will do you good Dave.
My memory is fine. ?I know the difference between a suggestion and
a
aw. ?-Dave
You're right, Dave..........I guess I was off.base............
Yup... the retarded imposter was.....Heehee.........Ain't that a
HOOT? Your L'yak's mistake looks so obvious.....Heeheee........
Screen Ranger
2008-04-19 18:36:55 UTC
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Post by Screen Ranger
Post by Dave
Post by Screen Ranger
Why should they? ?People merging onto the highway are supposed
to
find a gap to merge
Oh Shit, there is no gap when 3-4 days blocking the entrance.
In that case, you are required by law to YIELD to traffic already on the
highway. ?There is no time limit on the yield requirement. ?If you
sit there
for 3-4 days waiting for an opening to safely merge, that is WHAT THE LAW
REQUIRES!!!!
Post by Screen Ranger
Further more you are so wrong on this rule, I was taught by my state
to move away from the entrance so people can get in.
So was I. ?Unlike you, I am not confusing a suggestion with a law,
however.
If you are courteous, you MAY move over, if you want to, and if it is safe
for you to do so. ?There is no law requiring it.
Post by Screen Ranger
?Cheese, you
need to review your driver's license booklet.....Heeeeheee...... Or
take some Anti-Alzheimer's pills, it will do you good Dave.
My memory is fine. ?I know the difference between a suggestion and
a
aw. ?-Dave
You're right, Dave..........I guess I was off.base............
Yup... the retarded imposter was.....Heehee.........Ain't that a
HOOT? Your L'yak's mistake looks so obvious.....Heeheee........- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I apologize Dave.........I don't know what I was
thinking............But then, sometimes I don't think.............
Screen Ranger
2008-04-19 18:43:33 UTC
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Post by Screen Ranger
Post by Screen Ranger
Post by Dave
Post by Screen Ranger
Why should they? ?People merging onto the highway are supposed
to
find a gap to merge
Oh Shit, there is no gap when 3-4 days blocking the entrance.
In that case, you are required by law to YIELD to traffic already on the
highway. ?There is no time limit on the yield requirement. ?If you
sit there
for 3-4 days waiting for an opening to safely merge, that is WHAT THE LAW
REQUIRES!!!!
Post by Screen Ranger
Further more you are so wrong on this rule, I was taught by my state
to move away from the entrance so people can get in.
So was I. ?Unlike you, I am not confusing a suggestion with a law,
however.
If you are courteous, you MAY move over, if you want to, and if it is safe
for you to do so. ?There is no law requiring it.
Post by Screen Ranger
?Cheese, you
need to review your driver's license booklet.....Heeeeheee...... Or
take some Anti-Alzheimer's pills, it will do you good Dave.
My memory is fine. ?I know the difference between a suggestion and
a
aw. ?-Dave
You're right, Dave..........I guess I was off.base............
Yup... the retarded imposter was.....Heehee.........Ain't that a
HOOT? Your L'yak's mistake looks so obvious.....Heeheee........- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I apologize Dave.........I don't know what I was
thinking............But then, sometimes I don't think.............- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I really should Stop Taking DRUGS............
realitytrucker
2008-04-19 04:17:32 UTC
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Post by Screen Ranger
Post by Dave
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700
Post by Screen Ranger
Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
women doing this shitty thing.  I congratulate you truck drivers,
you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the freeway.
Ummmm, we move over because we have no choice.  If some dumbfuck in
a minivan cuts us off, that will be a dead dumbfuck.  Not that we
care, but it will also ruin our career, even though it wasn't our
fault.  So we move over to PREVENT getting cut off, whenever we
can.
Post by Screen Ranger
The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
get in or not.
Why should they?  People merging onto the highway are supposed to
find a gap to merge
Oh Shit, there is no gap when 3-4 days blocking the entrance.
Further more you are so wrong on this rule, I was taught by my state
to move away from the entrance so people can get in.  Cheese, you
need to review your driver's license booklet.....Heeeeheee...... Or
take some Anti-Alzheimer's pills, it will do you good Dave.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's called courtesy. You are NOT required to move over. Traffic
on a limited access highway such as an interstate has the right of
way. Traffic entering the highway must yield.

Traffic exiting the limited access highway also has he right of way.
Traffic on the access/frontage road must yield to the exit ramp.
RobZip
2008-04-19 06:23:07 UTC
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Post by Dave
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700
Yes it is. Way too many people think that they have the right to enter
the highway RIGHT DAMN NOW, whether there is traffic already on it or not.
That is a huge problem. -Dave
I generally DO NOT move over. Merging is a concept of blending into an
existing flow of traffic by accelerating into an existing opening or
dropping back to enter behind a vehicle in the existing flow. This horseshit
of moving over may have been a courtesy one could extend in low density,
light traffic conditions, but it is totally WRONG to do!

What it has accomplished is to teach a whole generation of drivers the
expectation that others in existing traffic must scramble, brake, and dodge
them through whatever means possible to accomodate their entry to the
roadway - usually at speeds 20 mph or more below the flow of traffic. Then
they either accelerate away like the proverbial bat out of hell, or block
you by matching your speed in the right lane long enough for a line to form
up behind you - a line that streams by in your blind spots and cuts you off
repeatedly after the merging vehicle does get out of your way. No good deed
goes unpunished, so fuck 'em, I'm not moving! I may roll off the throttle a
bit, or maybe drop a gear and blow by one who doesn't grasp the notion of
being in an acceleration lane. Move over? Nope. Not with a chemical tanker,
I won't.
Brad Allen
2008-04-22 08:11:08 UTC
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" Yes it is. Way too many people think that they have the
" right to enter the highway RIGHT DAMN NOW, whether there
" is traffic already on it or not. That is a huge problem.

The limits of what is considered acceptable may be different
in California where you are not supposed to stop on freeway
onramps. Part of that assumes a certain amount of space
already present between vehicles in the road you're merging
into, so you *can* just get in by merging right (aiming and
lining up with the open space). Anybody who is tailgating
so much that you can't find space to get in when you are
merging into a freeway is at fault themselves, regardless
of right of way, so it's not all one sided. This is mostly
true in the old fasioned long-ramp freeway onramps I grew
up with; lately, a lot of short/tight-ramp styles have
been popping up replacing the good old ones. Why Caltrans
allowed that attrocity to happen, I don't understand.

richard
2008-04-18 21:39:54 UTC
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On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700, "Screen Ranger"
Post by Screen Ranger
Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
women doing this shitty thing. I congratulate you truck drivers, you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the freeway.
The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
get in or not. This is a good example of why America going down in
many areas.
However, I have seen my share of asshole truckers doing the same
shitty things. Not just by rookies, but by seasoned vets!

To educate you sir, it is not MY responsibility to move out of YOUR
way to let you into the flow of traffic. You move over only if you can
do safely. It is not required by law.

When your ramp lane ends, who has the right of way? You?
Wrong! The vehicle your about to strike has the right of way. In case
of an accident, you get charged with "failure to yield".
I've seen way to many asshole truck drivers who think that they
because they are coming into the flow of traffic on the right, they
have the right of way. Totally wrong all the way.

I challenge you to show me where any state law says otherwise.
$100 if you can show me just one state law where it says that a
vehicle on the ramp has the right of way. I'll bet you can't do it.
Screen Ranger
2008-04-18 23:54:02 UTC
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Post by richard
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700, "Screen Ranger"
Post by Screen Ranger
Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
women doing this shitty thing. I congratulate you truck drivers, you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the
freeway.
The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
get in or not. This is a good example of why America going down in
many areas.
However, I have seen my share of asshole truckers doing the same
shitty things. Not just by rookies, but by seasoned vets!
To educate you sir, it is not MY responsibility to move out of YOUR
way to let you into the flow of traffic. You move over only if you can
do safely. It is not required by law.
Hey Richard,

1.) I'm afraid you're so wrong about this rule, I remember so well
that the State require people to move away from the entrance so
people can get in the freeway. Give me sometimes, I will find and
post that rule later.

2.) Why not moving over on your left when there is a wide space? why
would people want to get into an accident? It wasn't because there
is no space but people are simply too stubborn on the right of way of
something.
Dave
2008-04-19 00:57:26 UTC
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Post by Screen Ranger
Hey Richard,
1.) I'm afraid you're so wrong about this rule, I remember so well
that the State require people to move away from the entrance so
people can get in the freeway. Give me sometimes, I will find and
post that rule later.
We could give you the rest of your life and you'll never get back to us with
that information. It doesn't exist. It is suggested as courtesy to move
over if you can, but there is no LAW compelling you to do so.
Post by Screen Ranger
2.) Why not moving over on your left when there is a wide space? why
would people want to get into an accident? It wasn't because there
is no space but people are simply too stubborn on the right of way of
something.
Stubborn has nothing to do with it. I expect people to follow the rules of
the road, as it makes my life easier when they do. If you stay in your lane
and maintain a constant speed, *I* can plan my merge much easier. If you
try to move over, now I have to wonder where (and why) you are going and if
you are going to move over and if you do, how long you will stay moved
over...
Just take the right of way and keep it, dammit. -Dave
Screen Ranger
2008-04-19 05:20:11 UTC
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From the Florida DMV
http://www.dmv.org/fl-florida/english_handbook.pdf
"All expressway entrances have three basic parts: an entrance ramp,
an
acceleration lane, and a merging area. Follow these guidelines to
enter an
· On the entrance ramp, begin checking for an opening in traffic.
Signal for
your turn.
· As the ramp straightens into the acceleration lane, speed up. Try
to
adjust your speed so that you can move into the traffic when you
reach the
end of the acceleration lane.
· Merge into traffic when you can do so safely. You must yield the
right-of-way to traffic on the expressway. You cannot always count
on other
drivers moving over to give you room to enter, but do not stop on
an
acceleration lane unless traffic is too heavy and there is no space
for you
to enter safely."
From New York DMV
"If the entrance lane is too short to allow acceleration to
expressway
speed,
the safest way to enter is to stop and wait for a large gap in
traffic. Then
enter the
expressway and accelerate quickly. To avoid conflicts with other
entrance
lane
traffic, stop only if necessary and merge into expressway traffic
as soon as
possible."
the great communist state of california
Enter the freeway at or near the speed of traffic. (Remember that
the
maximum speed allowed is 65 mph on most freeways.) Do not stop
before
merging with freeway traffic unless absolutely necessary. Freeway
traffic
has the right of way.
Ohio says
"Be sure to signal your desire to move into freeway traffic and
always yeild
the right of way to traffic already on the freeway."
Thats four major states, and all of them say the same thing oin
their
drivers handbooks. I guess Screen Ranger needs to go back and read
his
drives manual.
Whitelightning
Heeeheee.....Blackenning.... So far you exaggerate with 4 states when
you only posted FL. Now let's go to the bottom line, why do you
want to have an accident when you can avoid it?

There are more space on your left, and why not giving a courtesy to
the mild drivers? Remember, I'm not a mild driver, my car is 550hr
power, I feel pity for those inexperienced drivers. Truckers thank
you for your courtesy, you should continue to be considerate and
avoid accident as much you can...and Do not follow the Blackenning's
advice.
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
2008-04-19 04:24:27 UTC
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Post by richard
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:39 -0700, "Screen Ranger"
Post by Screen Ranger
Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
women doing this shitty thing. I congratulate you truck drivers, you
are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the freeway.
The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
get in or not. This is a good example of why America going down in
many areas.
However, I have seen my share of asshole truckers doing the same
shitty things. Not just by rookies, but by seasoned vets!
To educate you sir, it is not MY responsibility to move out of YOUR
way to let you into the flow of traffic. You move over only if you can
do safely. It is not required by law.
It is YOUR responsibility to prevent AN accident, Bullis.
Post by richard
When your ramp lane ends, who has the right of way? You?
Wrong! The vehicle your about to strike has the right of way. In case
of an accident, you get charged with "failure to yield".
Bullis the law enforcement officer. Guess he's been watching COPS again.
Post by richard
I've seen way to many asshole truck drivers who think that they
because they are coming into the flow of traffic on the right, they
have the right of way. Totally wrong all the way.
And how many of those asshole truck drivers have flipped you off after
you've nearly caused an accident due to your arrogance, Bullis?
Post by richard
I challenge you to show me
Every time you've done this in the past it's ended badly for you. Maybe you
should stop right there.
Post by richard
where any state law says otherwise.
$100 if you can show me just one state law where it says that a
vehicle on the ramp has the right of way. I'll bet you can't do it.
You don't *have* $100, Bullis.
Brad Allen
2008-04-22 08:05:45 UTC
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In article <fuav64$fq5$***@aioe.org>,
Screen Ranger <***@aol.com> wrote:
" Yup... there are many retarded drivers out there, every day I see
" them driving this way, expecting you to brake for them, especially
" women doing this shitty thing. I congratulate you truck drivers, you
" are good, you know how to move away for people to get on the freeway.
" The rest of Americans are too dumbfucked, they don't care if you can
" get in or not. This is a good example of why America going down in
" many areas.

I think there are a number of reasons.

Usually the best defense is lots of buffer space and stay away from
vehicles. Going similar speeds so you're not constantly in danger
of being next to someone by passing or being passed helps too.
Unfortunately, there's still many situations where this is a
danger. I use liberal use of my horn for what it's intended to
do, warn people of impending danger. I also quickly move to
a defensive safer situation. I do not have a nasty pro-accident
attacking attitude against those morons, since that will only
make the situation worse. I never hesitate to remove myself
from harm. I look around at regular intervals in all directions
out of a sane paranoia of those types.

Those who drive safely and sanely with preplanned paths and
good interdriver communication and planning ahead are far easier
to predict than the spuradic types.

I do have many theories why this is the case. My most recent
theory is that front wheel drive vehicles don't reveal as much
about their changes in direction of travel. There's the usual
theories I have about baby boomers wanting to be subversive
rather than cooperative, hiding their movements as much as
possible. Also, I have theories about lack of education,
lack of standards, lack of caring, lack of enforcement, and
other similar things.

Sometimes I wish I could find a lane without these types in it,
but that is often hard to do since they're in all lanes.
Using the #1 (or in big freeways the #2) lane can avoid a
large number of them, but sometimes the average speed over
there is quite a bit higher than you want to go at. This
happens to me all the time in downtown San Jose, California.
I chart a good average between the recklessly slow vehicles
wildly covorting to my right and the recklessly fast vehicles
trying to slam past everyone in the left lanes in that really
dangerous section of US-CA-I-280. I try to stay out of
everyone's way, but with the difference in speeds between
vehicles in #1 and #3 lanes often being over 45MPH, one has
to be super careful and alert. In my personal vehicle, I
usually *try* to go through in #1 at around 53 - 63 MPH,
sometimes 65MPH. Then, when it's safe, I move slowly to the
right according to where I need to exit. Every once in a while
I have to gun it to keep the vehicles behind me from wanting to
charge into right lanes, and then I have to strongly consider
carefully moving right and slowing to the 40-60MPH speed of
the #2 lane or 20-50MPH speed of the #3 lane (which I avoid).

So I suppose the not signalling problem isn't the only
problem to be concerned with.

Part of the blame belongs to the road designers: there are
merges in that freeway section that are in the middle lanes of
the freeway (e.g., lane #4 and #3 merge together where there is
a lane #5 and #6 present, and there is no arrow in the pavement
alerting you to the merge, and no sign alerting you to the
merge). But a lot of it is the drivers themselves, too.
There seems to be an accident many times a week in that section.
(Just today, I slowed to perhaps half speed limit or less to
approach an accident scene with hazards on (emergency
responders had just finished setting up). That didn't prevent
a couple of cars switching into the next lane and back again
around me and zooming right into the accident zone without
a concern for anything. Luckily, my lane and theirs were clear,
so this time around, it went ok for them. I was going so slow
at that point anything going bad to me was unlikely, but I had
to watch every direction, and watch for a lot of those crazy
lane switchers.)

Then, the lull -- everyone else does it too, why not you? Bad
idea, but probably a standard setter.
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