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United Methodists promise to demolish one of their churches each time Quran is burned
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Sp Qr
2011-04-02 21:13:55 UTC
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HEADLINE: United Methodists promise to demolish one of their churches
each time Quran is burned




OVERVIEW: The United Methodist community in the US is promising that
they will demolish one of their churches every time that a Quran in
the world is burned.




LINK:
http://www.examiner.com/american-politics-in-vancouver/united-methodists-promise-to-demolish-their-churches-each-time-a-quran-is-burned
repo
2011-04-02 21:40:15 UTC
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Post by Sp Qr
HEADLINE: United Methodists promise to demolish one of their churches
each time Quran is burned
What do they have in common??

And this from a non-christian!!!!

Lest we forget!

Excerpts of an article written by non-Catholic Sam Miller - a
prominent Cleveland Jewish businessman:

"Why would newspapers carry on a vendetta on one of the most important
institutions that we have today in the United States , namely the
Catholic Church?

Do you know - the Catholic Church educates 2.6 million students
everyday at the cost to that Church of 10 billion dollars, and a
savings on the other hand to the American taxpayer of 18 billion
dollars. The graduates go on to graduate studies at the rate of 92%.

The Church has 230 colleges and universities in the U.S. with an
enrollment of 700,000 students.

The Catholic Church has a non-profit hospital system of 637 hospitals,
which account for hospital treatment of 1 out of every 5 people - not
just Catholics - in the United States today.

But the press is vindictive and trying to totally denigrate in every
way the Catholic Church in this country They have blamed the disease
of pedophilia on the Catholic Church, which is as irresponsible as
blaming adultery on the institution of marriage.

Let me give you some figures that Catholics should know and remember.
For example, 12% of the 300 Protestant clergy surveyed admitted to
sexual intercourse with a parishioner; 38% acknowledged other
inappropriate sexual contact in a study by the United Methodist
Church , 41.8% of clergy women reported unwanted sexual behavior; 17%
of laywomen have been sexually harassed.

Meanwhile, 1.7% of the Catholic clergy has been found guilty of
pedophilia. 10% of the Protestant ministers have been found guilty of
pedophilia. This is not a Catholic Problem.

A study of American priests showed that most are happy in the
priesthood and find it even better than they had expected, and that
most, if given the choice, would choose to be priests again in face
of all this obnoxious PR the church has been receiving.

The Catholic Church is bleeding from self-inflicted wounds. The agony
that Catholics have felt and suffered is not necessarily the fault of
the Church. You have been hurt by a small number of wayward priests
that have probably been totally weeded out by now.

Walk with your shoulders high and you head higher. Be a proud member
of the most important non-governmental agency in the United States ...

Then remember what Jeremiah said: 'Stand by the roads, and look and
ask for the ancient paths, where the good way is and walk in it, and
find rest for your souls'. Be proud to speak up for your faith with
pride and reverence and learn what your Church does for all other
religions.

Be proud that you're a Catholic."

Please pass this on to every Catholic on your e-mail list.
Post by Sp Qr
OVERVIEW: The United Methodist community in the US is promising that
they will demolish one of their churches every time that a Quran in
the world is burned.
LINK:http://www.examiner.com/american-politics-in-vancouver/united-methodi...
Dänk 666
2011-04-03 00:33:20 UTC
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Post by Sp Qr
HEADLINE: United Methodists promise to demolish one of their churches
each time Quran is burned
OVERVIEW: The United Methodist community in the US is promising that
they will demolish one of their churches every time that a Quran in
the world is burned.
LINK:http://www.examiner.com/american-politics-in-vancouver/united-methodi...
I hate Methodists almost as much as Muslims, so I've got a lot of
korans to burn.

Methodist Coloring Book:


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methodist_Board_of_Temperance,_Prohibition,_and_Public_Morals

"The Methodist Episcopal Church Board of Temperance, Prohibition, and
Public Morals was a major organization in the American temperance
movement which led to the introduction of prohibition in 1920."

"The Board of Temperance, Prohibition and Public Morals constructed
the Methodist Building on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC in the 1920's
to further increase its influence and lobbying power in public policy
matters regarding alcoholic beverages."
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http://www.umc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content3.aspx?c=lwL4KnN1LtH&b=2429869&ct=4339103

"The Commission on United Methodist Men and the United Methodist Board
of Church and Society are urging a congressional subcommittee to back
the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Stitt_Wilson

"J. Stitt Wilson was born in Canada on March 19, 1868, the son of
devout Methodist parents. He emigrated to the U.S. in 1888, settling
in Evanston, Illinois and attending Northwestern University, working
after graduation as a schoolmaster and for a law firm. Wilson later
decided to enter the Methodist ministry, enrolling at the theological
seminary at Northwestern. Following completion of his schooling,
Wilson worked for the next four years as a Methodist pastor and social
worker in nearby Chicago. He later recalled that the experience of
these four years were 'to me a school out of which I came -- a
Socialist.'"
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"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its
victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under
robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber
baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be
satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us
without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
-- C.S. Lewis
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Tim Crowley
2011-04-03 03:38:48 UTC
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Post by Dänk 666
I hate
Yeah, it's obvious.
Dänk 666
2011-04-03 07:28:40 UTC
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Post by Tim Crowley
Post by Dänk 666
I hate
Yeah, it's obvious.
So tell us why you support the Methodists' meddling in secular
political affairs. Is separation of church and state an absolute
concept, or does it depend on the political ideology of the church
meddling in state affairs?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Fact-sheet-and-expected-attendees-for-todays-Rose-Garden-bill-signing/

"Today, President Obama will sign historic legislation granting
authority over tobacco products to the U.S. Food and Drug
Administration."

"Additional Expected Attendees: James Winkler, Chair of Faith United
Against Tobacco and General Secretary, United Methodist Board of
Church & Society; Methodist Church -- General Board of Church and
Society"

[Note: The Baptist church's involvement in the anti-pornography
movement generated widespread outrage among leftards.]
Dug
2011-04-03 22:05:45 UTC
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Post by Sp Qr
HEADLINE: United Methodists promise to demolish one of their churches
each time Quran is burned
OVERVIEW: The United Methodist community in the US is promising that
they will demolish one of their churches every time that a Quran in
the world is burned.
Why don't the Methodist retards try relocating their faith to the nearest,
most
convenient islamofascist state? The rest of us will all see how that pans
out
for them.
Post by Sp Qr
http://www.examiner.com/american-politics-in-vancouver/united-methodists-promise-to-demolish-their-churches-each-time-a-quran-is-burned
Dänk 666
2011-04-04 00:34:20 UTC
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Post by Dug
Post by Sp Qr
HEADLINE: United Methodists promise to demolish one of their churches
each time Quran is burned
OVERVIEW: The United Methodist community in the US is promising that
they will demolish one of their churches every time that a Quran in
the world is burned.
Why don't the Methodist retards try relocating their faith to the nearest,
most convenient islamofascist state? The rest of us will all see how
that pans out for them.
Perhaps they could try Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam and
literal mecca for Muslims around the world:

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http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2010/09/koran-burning-outrage-saudi-government-shreds-confiscated-bibles/

"What happens to the Bibles confiscated by the Saudi government?
According to sources, the Bibles are shredded. People caught inside
Saudi Arabia who have more than one Bible, arrested. The penalty,
lashing. Saudi Arabia ruled by Shariah law, laws based on the
interpretation of the Koran."
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As you can see, Saudi Arabia does not permit religious freedom for
Methodists or anyone else, and routinely confiscates and destroys
bibles. Any Methodist who attempted to proselytize in Saudi Arabia
could face execution, though first-time offenders are often just
sentenced to flogging and imprisonment.

Some have asked the obvious question of what would have occurred had
Terry Jones described his koran burning as "art" instead of a
"protest":

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http://www.your3dsource.com/controversial-artwork.html

"Piss Christ is a controversial photograph by U.S. artist Andres
Serrano. It shows a small plastic crucifix supporting the body of
Jesus Christ submerged in a glass of the artist's urine."

"The piece caused a scandal when it was exhibited in 1989, with
detractors accusing Serrano of blasphemy and others raising this as a
major issue of artistic freedom. On the floor of the United States
Senate, Senators Al D'Amato and Jesse Helms expressed outrage that the
piece was supported by the National Endowment for the Arts, since it
is a federal taxpayer-financed institution."

"Piss Christ is often used as a test-case for the idea of freedom of
speech, and was described in the journal Arts & Opinion as 'a clash
between the interests of artists in freedom of expression on the one
hand, and the hurt such artworks may cause to a section of the
community on the other.'"
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'Piss Christ' is an excellent example of the double-standard among the
leftards who are vigorously protesting the koran burning. At the
time, leftards denounced the cancellation of the 'Piss Christ' exhibit
as censorship, and argued that blaspheming the sacred symbols of
xianity was acceptable in the name of "artistic freedom." The artist
received a few death threats and his Piss Christ exhibit was
vandalized, acts that were condemned by leftards as intimidation and
censorship. But in the end, nobody was killed over it.

I've been asking this question repeatedly on this and similar threads:
Why do leftards defend the right to insult and blaspheme Christianity
and its "sacred" texts and symbols, but not the "sacred" texts and
symbols of Islam? So far I have not received an intelligible answer
from a single leftard. A related question is why leftards like "Ray
Fischer" believe Christianity to be the biggest threat to the First
Amendment when it is Muslims killing people for exercising their First
Amendment rights?

Finally, don't think for a second that caving in to Islamist threats
over koran burning will appease them, since it is not just our freedom
of speech that offends them; our bodies -- indeed, EVERYTHING about
our culture -- is offensive to Islam:

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article504975.ece

"Billboard adverts featuring partial nudity are being defaced by
Muslim activists who are offended by displays of flesh. The
advertising watchdog has confirmed that increasing numbers of posters
are being torn down or painted over in predominantly Islamic areas. A
website giving advice on how to vandalise billboards and listing
potential targets has been set up by a group calling themselves
Muslims Against Advertising (MAAD)."

"The [Advertising Standards Authority] told Triumph to remove its
advert for Sloggi thongs from a billboard near a mosque in Bury, after
complaints and a petition. One Muslim reportedly complained that it
was 'insulting' and constituted 'environmental pollution.'"
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(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2011-04-04 01:46:48 UTC
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On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:05:45 -0700,
Why don't the Methodist retards...
MOST methodists are the OPPOSITE of retards. Nothing
at all like you.
repo
2011-04-04 03:12:20 UTC
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On Apr 3, 6:46 pm, "( ` . Craig Chilton . ) <http://
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:05:45 -0700,
     Why don't the Methodist retards...
     MOST methodists are the OPPOSITE of retards.  
12% of the 300 Protestant clergy surveyed admitted to
sexual intercourse with a parishioner; 38% acknowledged other
inappropriate sexual contact in a study by the United Methodist
Church , 41.8% of clergy women reported unwanted sexual behavior;
17%
of laywomen have been sexually harassed.

10% of the Protestant ministers have been found guilty of
pedophilia.
(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2011-04-04 09:54:41 UTC
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On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:12:20 -0700 (PDT),
     Why don't the Methodist retards...
     MOST Methodists are the OPPOSITE of retards.  
<flush>

Get back to us if you have something ON-topic to say.
Dug
2011-04-04 05:21:40 UTC
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Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:05:45 -0700,
Why don't the Methodist retards...
MOST methodists are the OPPOSITE of retards. Nothing
at all like you.
If you're a Christian and you support islamonazism, that is presently
exterminating Christianity from the Mid-East, North Africa, Indonesia
and Malaysia YOU ARE THE RETARD. Of course you could just
be another lying islamonazi as well.
(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2011-04-04 10:18:34 UTC
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On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 22:21:40 -0700,
Post by Dug
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Why don't the Methodist retards...
MOST methodists are the OPPOSITE of retards. Nothing
at all like you.
If you're a Christian and you support islamonazism, that is presently
exterminating Christianity from the Mid-East, North Africa, Indonesia
and Malaysia...
...you are NOT describing me. I am a FAIR-MINDED and TOLERANT
Christian who recognizes that:

(1) ALL people have the RIGHT to believe whatever the want
in the USA... and that same right should be accorded to
ALL people worldwide.

(2) ALL religions and belief systems from Christianity to Islam to
Wicca to Taoism to atheism to Buddhism, etc., etc. are of
EQUAL value to those who hold to them, and should be ac-
corded *equal* RESPECT.

(3) NO religion or belief system should ever be belittled or
disparaged in any way -- and anyone who engages in that
is a doltish bigot.

(4) In keeping with the first three points, all hateful CULTS that
INFEST any society/religion/belief system should be soundly
CONDEMNED by ALL people, worldwide. Examples:

-- Al Qaida... hatefully infests Islam.
-- The Taliban... oligarchical cult; hatefully infests Islam.
-- The LDS Cult (Mormon)... *claims* to be Christian but
hatefully seeks to destroy or curtail reasonable per-
sonal liberties for hundreds of millions of women,
girls, and gays, so... infests Christianity.
-- The RRR Cult (The [IR]-Religious Radical Right...
an oligarchical cult whose organizations, leaders,
and their lemmings CLAIM to be Christian, but they
hatefully seek to destroy or curtail reasonable per-
sonal liberties for hundreds of millions of women,
girls, and gays, so... infests Christianity, but
thankfully seems to be confined to the USA. (The
rest of the world is intelligent enough to want NO
PART of it! Hopefully, it will die out before it can
make anyone else's life miserable *outside* of the
USA.
To further address your point, MOST of the intolerant Muslims
that have been persecuting Christians oversea are found within
hate-cults that infest Islam. MOST of the world's 1-1/2 BILLION
Muslims are fair-minded and tolerant people, just like <OST of the
world's 2 BILLION Christians.

For more on the RRR Cult, see:

http://www.egalitarian.biz/Lie.html
(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2011-04-07 08:26:30 UTC
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On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 22:21:40 -0700,
Why don't the Methodist retards...
MOST Methodists are the OPPOSITE of retards. Nothing
at all like *you*.
If you're a Christian and you support [having respect for Islam,
which contains small factions of Muslims who are] presently exter-
minating [some Christians in] the Mid-East, North Africa, Indonesia
and Malaysia...
...you are NOT describing me. I am a FAIR-MINDED and TOLERANT
Christian who recognizes that:

(1) ALL people have the RIGHT to believe whatever the want
in the USA... and that same right should be accorded to
ALL people worldwide.

(2) ALL religions and belief systems from Christianity to Islam to
Wicca to Taoism to atheism to Buddhism, etc., etc. are of
EQUAL value to those who hold to them, and should be ac-
corded *equal* RESPECT.

(3) NO religion or belief system should ever be belittled or
disparaged in any way -- and anyone who engages in that
is a doltish bigot.

(4) In keeping with the first three points, all hateful CULTS that
INFEST any society/religion/belief system should be soundly
CONDEMNED by ALL people, worldwide. Examples:

-- Al Qaida... hatefully infests Islam.
-- The Taliban... oligarchical cult; hatefully infests Islam.
-- The LDS Cult (Mormon)... *claims* to be Christian but
hatefully seeks to destroy or curtail reasonable per-
sonal liberties for hundreds of millions of women,
girls, and gays, so... infests Christianity.
-- The RRR Cult (The [IR]-Religious Radical Right...
an oligarchical cult whose organizations, leaders,
and their lemmings CLAIM to be Christian, but they
hatefully seek to destroy or curtail reasonable per-
sonal liberties for hundreds of millions of women,
girls, and gays, so... infests Christianity, but
thankfully seems to be confined to the USA. (The
rest of the world is intelligent enough to want NO
PART of it! Hopefully, it will die out before it can
make anyone else's life miserable *outside* of the
USA.
To further address your point, MOST of the intolerant Muslims
that have been persecuting Christians overseas are found within
hate-cults that infest Islam. MOST of the world's 1-1/2 BILLION
Muslims are fair-minded and tolerant people, just like MOST of the
world's 2 BILLION Christians.

For more on the loathsome RRR Cult, see:

http://www.egalitarian.biz/Lie.html

Dänk 666
2011-04-04 21:12:05 UTC
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On Apr 3, 7:46 pm, "( ` . Craig Chilton . ) <http://
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:05:45 -0700,
     Why don't the Methodist retards...
     MOST methodists are the OPPOSITE of retards.  Nothing
at all like you.
Methodists are do-good busybody control freaks, which is why so many
of them are also socialists.

Methodist Coloring Book:
http://youtu.be/Pj-GIAACClc
(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2011-04-05 03:12:52 UTC
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On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 14:12:05 -0700 (PDT),
Dänk 666 <***@rocketmail.com> wrote:


...nothing but ignorant lies.


Previous post follows:

On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:05:45 -0700,
Why don't the Methodist retards...
MOST Methodists are the OPPOSITE of retards.
Nothing at all like you.
Dug
2011-04-04 18:10:11 UTC
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Post by Sp Qr
HEADLINE: United Methodists promise to demolish one of their churches
each time Quran is burned
OVERVIEW: The United Methodist community in the US is promising that
they will demolish one of their churches every time that a Quran in
the world is burned.
http://www.examiner.com/american-politics-in-vancouver/united-methodists-promise-to-demolish-their-churches-each-time-a-quran-is-burned
This is an April fool's joke, as Robert Spencer at Jihadwatch has pointed
out. The
name of the Methodist bishop may give away the fact it's a joke:

"...Methodist Bishop Walter M. Itty issued a statement that claimed to
express solidarity with Islam."
Dänk 666
2011-04-04 21:16:06 UTC
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Post by Dug
Post by Sp Qr
HEADLINE: United Methodists promise to demolish one of their churches
each time Quran is burned
OVERVIEW: The United Methodist community in the US is promising that
they will demolish one of their churches every time that a Quran in
the world is burned.
http://www.examiner.com/american-politics-in-vancouver/united-methodi...
This is an April fool's joke, as Robert Spencer at Jihadwatch has pointed
out. The
"...Methodist Bishop Walter M. Itty issued a statement that claimed to
express solidarity with Islam."
A way too obscure reference. I just Googled it, and "Walter Mitty"
was a fictional character in a short story from WWII:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Life_of_Walter_Mitty
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