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WHAT CLASS WAR?
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Hu Jintao
2011-09-26 23:34:48 UTC
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"The U.S. class war began in 1971. That year, soon-to-be Supreme Court
justice Lewis F. Powell Jr. wrote a confidential memorandum to a
friend at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce about the 'Attack of the
American Free Enterprise System.' ”

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"President Obama shouldn’t be afraid of a little class warfare"

Op-Ed
By Sally Kohn
September 23, 2011

On Monday, defending his plan to raise taxes on the rich to pay for
job creation, President Obama said: “This is not class warfare, it’s
math.”

No, Mr. President, this is class warfare — and it’s a war you’d better
win. Corporate interests and the rich started it. Right now, they’re
winning. Progressives and the middle class must fight back, and the
president should be clear whose side he’s on.

The class war began in 1971. That year, soon-to-be Supreme Court
justice Lewis F. Powell Jr. wrote a confidential memorandum to a
friend at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce about the “Attack of the
American Free Enterprise System.” In the mid-20th century — from the
New Deal to Social Security to environmental and civil rights laws —
the government had cut into corporate profits while creating middle-
class prosperity. Falsely believing that capitalism was under attack,
Powell wrote: “It must be recognized that businessmen have not been

trained or equipped to conduct guerrilla warfare with those who
propagandize against the system.” His proposal, from which the modern
conservative movement grew, was to equip business elites for that
battle with aggressive policies to make Americans believe that what’s
good for wealthy chief executives is good for them, too.

Between 1979 and 2007, the income gap between the richest 1 percent of
Americans and the poorest 40 percent more than tripled. Today, the
richest 10 percent of Americans control two-thirds of the nation’s
wealth, while, according to recently released census data, average
Americans saw their real incomes decline by 2.3 percent in 2010.
Though our economy grew in 2009 and 2010, 88 percent of the increase
in real national income went to corporate profits, one study found.
Only 1 percent went to wages and salaries for working people.

Last year, American companies posted their biggest profits ever, and
bonuses for bank and hedge fund executives not only reached record
highs, but grew faster than corporate revenue. Meanwhile, almost one
in 10 Americans is unemployed, and 15 percent live at or below the
poverty level.

As a progressive activist who has marched against many wars, I try to
avoid militant rhetoric. But only “class warfare” accurately describes
a situation in which 400 people control more wealth than the poorest
150 million Americans combined. If “class warfare” isn’t the richest
of the rich fighting tooth and nail against unions and any tax
increases while record numbers of people lose their homes, what is?

While the revolutionary spirit is brimming around the globe,
progressive activists have been stymied by the seeming complacency of
Americans in the face of this obvious inequality. Effective protest
doesn’t mean more of the usual suspects making more of the usual
noise, as with the mostly young, white anarchists who targeted Wall
Street this past week. It means unexpected people doing unexpected
things to disrupt the status quo and mobilize public will for change.
If we’re at war, it’s time to escalate.

In a peaceful disagreement, you might write letters to bank executives
or march in front of the Capitol. But what about in a war? Imagine
millions of Americans withholding mortgage payments to banks that
refuse to adjust underwater loans. Imagine divestment campaigns to
pressure public pension funds and universities to pull their money
from the private sector and put it into government bonds. Imagine
students staging sit-ins to protest teacher layoffs. Imagine families
who have lost their homes squatting in vacant, bank-owned properties.
Imagine a nationwide call to arms, as passionately nonviolent but as
violently passionate as the pro-democracy movements sweeping the Arab
world. After all, according to the CIA, income inequality in the
United States is greater than in Yemen.

And imagine if this war between the rich and the rest of us defined
the battle for the presidency in 2012. Some people might not be
willing to stop paying the mortgage, but they could vote their
conscience. The notion that Democrats have abandoned the working class
fueled anti-union, pro-tea-party sentiment in the 2010 elections. Yet
Republicans have made clear that they would rather cut Social Security
and Medicare benefits than raise taxes on the rich or increase
spending to help our economy. Initially, Obama conceded to the right
and cut taxes. Now, he says he wants to raise them. The president must
show us not only that he’s willing to fight, but that he’s willing to
fight for middle-class Americans. This may be his last chance to show
voters what he’s made of.

Acknowledging and waging class warfare might not please the
president’s biggest donors. After all, Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan
Chase helped bankrollObama’s 2008 campaign. But standing for the
middle class will never backfire with voters. Three out of four
Americans support raising taxes on the richest of the rich. Even a
majority of Republican voters favor such tax increases. With a once-
popular president running for a second term, the Democratic Party must
do the right thing. If it can’t now, when will it be able to?

At the Clinton Global Initiative conference in New York this past
week, former president Bill Clinton said: “Whether you can win or not
in a fight that’s worth fighting, get caught trying.” Instead of
denying that there’s a class war in America, Obama must come out
swinging for the good guys. History — and voters — will catch him in
the act and reward him. And millions of Americans could be inspired to
try, in their own way, to topple our economy’s brutal inequality.

The good news is that Obama may be coming around. Later in the week,
he got more aggressive. “If asking a billionaire to pay the same rate
as a plumber or a teacher makes me a warrior for the middle class, I
wear that charge as a badge of honor,” he said.

Yes, it’s class warfare. Which side are you on?

[***@movementvision.org]

[Sally Kohn is a political commentator and grass-roots strategist.]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/president-obama-shouldnt-be-af...

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Hu Jintao

In China, we have no class war. Most Chinee have little or no class.
So, we of the high class are resigned to infusing what class we can
into our underlings.

It is a difficult task, I assure you.

Thank you.

Your Most Sincere Sino President

Hu
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2011-09-27 00:56:32 UTC
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Post by Hu Jintao
"The U.S. class war began in 1971. That year, soon-to-be Supreme Court
justice Lewis F. Powell Jr. wrote a confidential memorandum to a
friend at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce about the 'Attack of the
American Free Enterprise System.' ”
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"President Obama shouldn’t be afraid of a little class warfare"
Op-Ed
By Sally Kohn
September 23,  2011
On Monday, defending his plan to raise taxes on the rich to pay for
job creation, President Obama said: “This is not class warfare, it’s
math.”
No, Mr. President, this is class warfare — and it’s a war you’d better
win. Corporate interests and the rich started it. Right now, they’re
winning. Progressives and the middle class must fight back, and the
president should be clear whose side he’s on.
The class war began in 1971. That year, soon-to-be Supreme Court
justice Lewis F. Powell Jr. wrote a confidential memorandum to a
friend at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce about the “Attack of the
American Free Enterprise System.” In the mid-20th century — from the
New Deal to Social Security to environmental and civil rights laws —
the government had cut into corporate profits while creating middle-
class prosperity. Falsely believing that capitalism was under attack,
Powell wrote: “It must be recognized that businessmen have not been
trained or equipped to conduct guerrilla warfare with those who
propagandize against the system.” His proposal, from which the modern
conservative movement grew, was to equip business elites for that
battle with aggressive policies to make Americans believe that what’s
good for wealthy chief executives is good for them, too.
Between 1979 and 2007, the income gap between the richest 1 percent of
Americans and the poorest 40 percent more than tripled. Today, the
richest 10 percent of Americans control two-thirds of the nation’s
wealth, while, according to recently released census data, average
Americans saw their real incomes decline by 2.3 percent in 2010.
Though our economy grew in 2009 and 2010, 88 percent of the increase
in real national income went to corporate profits, one study found.
Only 1 percent went to wages and salaries for working people.
Last year, American companies posted their biggest profits ever, and
bonuses for bank and hedge fund executives not only reached record
highs, but grew faster than corporate revenue. Meanwhile, almost one
in 10 Americans is unemployed, and 15 percent live at or below the
poverty level.
As a progressive activist who has marched against many wars, I try to
avoid militant rhetoric. But only “class warfare” accurately describes
a situation in which 400 people control more wealth than the poorest
150 million Americans combined. If “class warfare” isn’t the richest
of the rich fighting tooth and nail against unions and any tax
increases while record numbers of people lose their homes, what is?
While the revolutionary spirit is brimming around the globe,
progressive activists have been stymied by the seeming complacency of
Americans in the face of this obvious inequality. Effective protest
doesn’t mean more of the usual suspects making more of the usual
noise, as with the mostly young, white anarchists who targeted Wall
Street this past week. It means unexpected people doing unexpected
things to disrupt the status quo and mobilize public will for change.
If we’re at war, it’s time to escalate.
In a peaceful disagreement, you might write letters to bank executives
or march in front of the Capitol. But what about in a war? Imagine
millions of Americans withholding mortgage payments to banks that
refuse to adjust underwater loans. Imagine divestment campaigns to
pressure public pension funds and universities to pull their money
from the private sector and put it into government bonds. Imagine
students staging sit-ins to protest teacher layoffs. Imagine families
who have lost their homes squatting in vacant, bank-owned properties.
Imagine a nationwide call to arms, as passionately nonviolent but as
violently passionate as the pro-democracy movements sweeping the Arab
world. After all, according to the CIA, income inequality in the
United States is greater than in Yemen.
And imagine if this war between the rich and the rest of us defined
the battle for the presidency in 2012. Some people might not be
willing to stop paying the mortgage, but they could vote their
conscience. The notion that Democrats have abandoned the working class
fueled anti-union, pro-tea-party sentiment in the 2010 elections. Yet
Republicans have made clear that they would rather cut Social Security
and Medicare benefits than raise taxes on the rich or increase
spending to help our economy. Initially, Obama conceded to the right
and cut taxes. Now, he says he wants to raise them. The president must
show us not only that he’s willing to fight, but that he’s willing to
fight for middle-class Americans. This may be his last chance to show
voters what he’s made of.
Acknowledging and waging class warfare might not please the
president’s biggest donors. After all, Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan
Chase helped bankrollObama’s 2008 campaign. But standing for the
middle class will never backfire with voters. Three out of four
Americans support raising taxes on the richest of the rich. Even a
majority of Republican voters favor such tax increases. With a once-
popular president running for a second term, the Democratic Party must
do the right thing. If it can’t now, when will it be able to?
At the Clinton Global Initiative conference in New York this past
week, former president Bill Clinton said: “Whether you can win or not
in a fight that’s worth fighting, get caught trying.” Instead of
denying that there’s a class war in America, Obama must come out
swinging for the good guys. History — and voters — will catch him in
the act and reward him. And millions of Americans could be inspired to
try, in their own way, to topple our economy’s brutal inequality.
The good news is that Obama may be coming around. Later in the week,
he got more aggressive. “If asking a billionaire to pay the same rate
as a plumber or a teacher makes me a warrior for the middle class, I
wear that charge as a badge of honor,” he said.
Yes, it’s class warfare. Which side are you on?
[Sally Kohn is a political commentator and grass-roots strategist.]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/president-obama-shouldnt-be-af...
===========
Hu Jintao
In China, we have no class war.  Most Chinee have little or no class.
So, we of the high class are resigned to infusing what class we can
into our underlings.
It is a difficult task, I assure you.
Thank you.
Your Most Sincere Sino President
Hu
"IS THE BOURGEOISIE INFILTRATING TAOISM?"

I mean petty bourgeoisie. They are of Western origin (big consumers)
and dismiss the simplicity that goes with Eastern Philosophies.

I think they are looking for meaning but we already know the world is
a jungle. There's no meaning to it, just that the predator has too
much power and it's devouring the planet. Actually you find meaning by
riding a bike to the store, greeting people and smelling the flowers.
When you are fat and lazy, you are dumb. It's that simple.

You can't possibly feel good about yourself. It could not be
coincidence Mao introduced the Flying Pigeon.

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Thank you, comrades!

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TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2011-09-27 01:26:11 UTC
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On Sep 26, 5:26 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
Post by TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
I mean petty bourgeoisie. They are of Western origin (big consumers)
and dismiss the simplicity that goes with Eastern Philosophies.
I think they are looking for meaning but we already know the world is
a jungle. There's no meaning to it, just that the predator has too
much power and it's devouring the planet. Actually you find meaning by
riding a bike to the store, greeting people and smelling the flowers.
When you are fat and lazy, you are dumb. It's that simple.
You can't possibly feel good about yourself. It could not be
coincidence Mao introduced the Flying Pigeon.
http://coolmaterial.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/The-Flying-Pigeon-...
Thank you, comrades!
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I'm not totally serious above, but sometimes an enlightened leader can
make a difference better than a democracy. It has proven almost
impossible to get something done in America without never ending
debates that don't address the issue. The issue is ENERGY IS TOO CHEAP
and it could be taxed. You must encourage efficiency and QUALITY OF
LIFE. The center of the revolution will be the bicycle, but not the
only vehicle by any means. NO SUV's, period,

However, I'm thinking of some other leader, not in the Mao tradition.
Chavez is not the man either. He NEEDS to sell oil to survive. The
revolution could be democratic too and Germany is a good model, rising
from ashes to glory. They got the oldest universal healthcare in the
world. We don't need the homeless. We don't need ghettos teaming with
gangs. We don't need a War on Drugs. Either crush the criminals at
once or liberate drugs. Our prisons are overflowing with drug
offenses, which are the product of stupid policies. Who consumes drugs
if not America? Mexico is ripe for the revolution. Viva Zapata!
AntiDabianchenVirus
2011-09-27 02:18:34 UTC
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Proof that abianchen/Meichi/report2009 is not "a guy from Taiwan",
like she claims, but an ugly Philippino dyke.
Hey Psycho Xangdi (aka Chairman Mao Says), not sure you want to prove
abianchen is your Chinese daddy or Meichi is your Filipino mom or
report2009 is your Chinese grandpa? I am sure abianchen has no problem
being your Chinese dad since he is your mom's best client. Who knows,
maybe abianchen is your bio daddy, want to test DNA?
Unable to refute the overwhelming evidence proving that shit face 狗屎
Meichi/Dabianchen/report2009 is an ugly Philippino lesbian
pathological liar, she reverts to her moron mode of childish taunts
against Xangdi's parents, going as far as to present herself as
"Xangdi's father"! This sort of writing can only come from a demented
person with no self-respect and certainly no morals.

Proof that abianchen/Meichi/report2009 is not "a guy from Taiwan",
but
an ugly Philippino dyke:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/31e3f301c13dbbbe...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/fc81fe43d9c693e2...


Proof that abianchen/Meichi/report2009 can't read/write Chinese other
than cutting-and-pasting from the internet:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/7576019d05116a21...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/2820117f3da3ac55...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/83029bb548080af5...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/dd8518ec6dab245a...


Proof that abianchen/Meichi/report2009 is a pathological liar:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/ee41fc07a8921a88...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/995a71070728ba0c...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/fdeab5e65d151e9c...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/4bdc7458cbd88491...
mode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/90a8fd496d942f91...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/240eb703ddb7713e...


Proof that abianchen/Meichi/report2009 makes persitent childish and
girlish claims:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/7d3d15d1e66e4876...


Proof that abianchen/Meichi/report2009 is a loser:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/8af8fda3a280e511...


Proof that abianchen/Meichi/report2009 is childish and repetitive:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/5646b3ef057db25d...
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